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- OSI Integration Area
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- Director(s):
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- o David M. Piscitello: dave@sabre.bellcore.com
- o Erik Huizer: Erik.Huizer@surfnet.nl
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- Area Summary reported by Dave Piscitello/Bellcore and Erik
- Huizer/SURFnet
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- The following Working Groups and/or BOFS in the OSI area met at the
- Washington IETF:
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- FTPFTAM FTP-FTAM Gateway BOF
- MHSDS MHS-DS
- NOOP Network OSI Operations
- OSIDS OSI Directory Services
- WHOIS Shared Whois Project BOF
- X400OPS X.400 Operations
- THINOSI Xwindows over OSI and Skinny stack BOF
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- The MIME-MHS Working Group, dealing with mapping MIME into X.400(88) and
- back, did not meet in Washington. The Group finished the three drafts,
- and will submit them on the standards track.
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- FTP-FTAM Gateway BOF (FTPFTAM)
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- The FTP-FTAM Gateway Internet Draft was previously discussed in the now
- defunct OSI-General Working Group. Josh Mindell and Robert Slaski gave
- a brief presentation of the status of the work since the July 1991 IETF,
- and described the changes introduced into the recently posted Internet
- Draft. Much of the work introduced is not radically new, but is not
- reflected in the current implementations. Steve Hardcastle-Kille
- indicated that the ISODE Consortium would be willing to consider
- implementation to upgrade the existing ISODE gateway if consortia
- members request it (and $ up).
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- The Working Group discussed quite frankly, the difficulties of
- sustaining interest in this project, which is locked a classic
- chicken-egg situation. Absent an RFC to cite in procurement requests,
- it has been difficult to foster additional implementation efforts. The
- BOF requested that the OSI Area Directors inquire as to the possibility
- of progressing the Internet Draft, which has been implemented, to
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- Proposed Standard. It is expected that during the review and
- development period following the recommendation to Proposed, at least
- the two currently known implementations will be made to conform and
- interoperate against the draft.
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- MHS-DS Working Group (MHSDS)
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- At its meeting in Washington, the MHSDS Working Group accomplished the
- following:
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- o Approved an updated Charter which adds coordination of a pilot
- project to the scope of the Working Group.
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- o Wrote a formal statement of purpose for the pilot project, and
- established concrete goals, a time-frame, criteria for measuring
- success, participants, and a coordinator for it.
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- o Reviewed four of the Group's nine documents-in-progress,
- recommended two of them for advancement as proposed standards, and
- made good progress on its principal routing document.
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- Network OSI Operations Working Group (NOOP)
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- NOOP talked about the revision of RFC1139 and also the Tools RFC draft
- Both of these need some revision. Both need some specific text about
- MUST and SHOULD, etc. The Tools RFC is going to have the MIB
- information removed until there is a routing table MIB. Then the
- document will be modified to point to the routing table MIB. After the
- documents are revised, we will put them up as Internet Drafts and try to
- move them on to Proposed Standard.
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- Some folks are going to work on getting a group together to make a
- routing table/forwarding table MIB. (Dave Piscitello is heading this
- effort).
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- Sue showed us the latest survey of OSI in the Internet. Some comments
- were made as to changes to the format of the survey to make it easier to
- fill out and understand. Sue is going to modify the survey and send it
- out to the Group. The survey results are availabe on merit.edu.
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- The second session of NOOP was a tutorial for folks a little less
- familiar with OSI and deployment issues. After the tutorial we
- discussed a particular network's topology and how it might be broken up
- into areas and domains.
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- OSI Directory Services Working Group (OSIDS)
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- The Working Group discussed several Internet Drafts:
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- o Strategic Deployment of Directory Services on the Internet. No
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- comments, will be published as Informational RFC.
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- o DUA Metrics. No comments, will be published as Informational RFC
- DSA metrics hold until tested it against an implementation.
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- o LDAP (Lightweight Access Protocol). This and associated syntax
- document will be submitted as Proposed Standard RFCs.
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- The Group discussed the RFC 1373, on portable DUAs (not gone through
- this Working Group) and decided that the document is confusing and
- should not have been published as such.
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- Several drafts on representing network information and other
- non-personal information in the Directory were discussed. These drafts
- were deemed interesting, and the Working Group will start working on
- these.
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- Finally the Group discussed the Charter. It was concluded that most of
- the goals from the original Charter have been achieved. An inventory
- was made amongst the members on whether they thought the Group should
- close down, or whether there were new items in the directory area that
- needed work.
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- The inventory showed that there is certainly interest to continue a
- Directory Services group, but with a slightly shifted focus, towards
- solving operational mid-term problems in the areas of datamanagement,
- provision of integrated DUAs, Database coupling interfaces, security and
- legal issues.
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- The Working Group Chair and Area Directors will draft a new Charter.
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- It was noted that absence of any representative of the ongoing pilots on
- X.500 is very unfortunate.
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- X.400 Operations Working Group (X400OPS)
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- The Working Group started of with a new co-Chair, Tony Genovese, taking
- over from Rob Hagens. Twenty-Nine participants from Eight countries
- attended the meeting. The Working Group discussed various Internet
- Drafts:
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- o Operational requirements for X.400 Management domains in the GO-MHS
- Community. Minor comments; will be published as Informational RFC
- and RTR.
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- o Using the Internet DNS to maintain RFC1327 mapping tables and X.400
- routing information. This will be split into two documents.
- Progressed to prototype early 1993.
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- o Routing coordination for X.400...... As usual lots of comments.
- Routing is always a hot issue :-). Will now be advanced early 1993
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- to prototype.
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- o Assertion of C=US; A=Internet lively discussions on this document.
- Lots of opposition especially from outside of the US. A special
- design team was formed on this issue Chaired by Kevin Jordan and
- Allan Cargille. The US-RAC name registration and behaviour
- guidelines were presented under this item.
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- o Mapping between X.400 and Mail-11. No more comments on the
- document. Will be submitted as prototype RFC.
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- o X.400 use of extended character sets. No comments, will be
- published as an Informational RFC.
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- o X.400 postmaster convention will be discussed via E-mail and then
- put on standards track.
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- Xwindows over OSI and Skinny Stack BOF (THINOIS)
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- The THINOSI BOF was the second BOF on this subject, with 14
- participants. The conclusions were to propose a working group with
- three objectives:
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- 1. Promote the deployment and testing of X-windows over OSI
- implementations and their generalisation to be carrier of any byte-
- stream over ACSE and the OSI 7-layer. (Simple byte-stream, not
- equivalent to full TCP function).
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- 2. Develop a RFC that defines the skinny bits for the generalised byte
- stream carrier: The protocol that the OSI standards require, but
- respecified without regard to which standard requires it.
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- 3. Develop an RFC of skinny bits for some subset of Directory Access
- Protocol.
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- Items 2 and especially 3 are feasibility proofs to see if such a
- document can be produced and be usefull. Implementation in parallel is
- anticipated.
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